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15 TOG for us 2.5 TOG for Baby!!

Darragh has a bit of gastro which isn’t too much fun in a campervan. He vomited on our bed and we had to change the duvet and while doing so we noticed the duvet is 15 tog, Nathan said “wow that’s amazing the two of us are sleeping and keeping each other warm under a 15 tog duvet and according to some bedding guides babies who are colder than us need to sleep in a 2.5 tog sleeping bag and no bedding. No wonder they don’t sleep.” This got me thinking about what Cillian sleeps in he is in a bodysuit, a babygro, a 1 tog Bubarroo sleeping bag, a doublewrap a sheet folded in two and 12 cotton and bamboo blankets and the campervan is 20 degrees. If a cellular cotton blanket is roughly 1 tog then he has roughly 14.5 tog on him including the sleeping bag so that’s not that different to what we are in and there are two of us warming the bed up.

PS. HAPPY EASTER ALL!!!

21 thoughts on "15 TOG for us 2.5 TOG for Baby!!"

  1. Olivia Crowley says:

    Oh poor Darragh….hope he feels better soon.
    Great comparision Tizzie….well done. Hope all going well besides the gastro!

  2. Kerryn says:

    It sort of puts it all in perspective doesn’t it when you look at it from that point of view! How interesting to find out what sort of TOG a duvet is, I wouldn’t have had a clue… thanks for sharing the info with us Tizzie, hope your tour is all going well and little Darragh is 100% in no time! Keep blogging, we love to hear from you.
    Best wishes
    Kerryn

  3. Laura Addabbo says:

    Oh Tizzie you must be loving this special family time! I hope good health follows you all for the rest of your time away. Everytime I read one of your explanations I have an “aha!” moment. The importance of keeping baby warm – living in Melbourne means very cold nights and mornings!! I’ve been scared to overdress my 10month old bub but how do I dress her when she wont stay under her blankets during the night?
    PS as I type this I have a new baby toy tucked into my bra – getting it ready to use as a comforter as per the suggestion in your book – my 4yo thinks its hilarious!

  4. Maysaa says:

    Hi Tizzie,

    Was wondering where you guys were at. I always struggle with this bedding issue, but you make it look wayyyy easy. if i was to explain that to another mum, i would sound silly!!

    Have you put up any pics?
    Take care
    x

  5. Lisa Kirkbride says:

    Hi Tizzie,
    I am expecting our bub end of May and have the reading and re-reading your book. It is such a fantastic source and your website is also great to help consolidate the info.

    I am now wondering if I do not have enough blankets.

    My plan was to have bub in a vest, one piece outfit, swaddled, bamboo sheet and bamboo blankets – I have bought 2 blankets for the bassinet (cot will not arrive on time) and will buy 3 blankets for the cot. I imagine I could double over the blanket in the cot (as he is foot to bottom of cot) and use two blankets – so 4 layers.

    Is this enough?

    Thanks in advance.

    Regards
    Lisa

  6. Lisa Kirkbride says:

    Thanks so much Tizzie for your reply. I will definitely buy your bedding guide.

    Yes – hubby and I are sooooo excited to finally add to our family – we have 2 Beagles who are our fur-babies:). It has been a “challenging journey” of 5 years trying for a baby with 4 miscarriages and a loss a twin at 20 weeks. Given all this we have learnt so much about ourselves and so grateful for the blessed life we have.

    We cannot wait to share our lives with bub!

    Regards
    Lisa

  7. Laura Addabbo says:

    Hi Tizzie,
    thanks so much for your reply, especially as you are taking time out of your holiday to read and reply to these comments. Your advice is invaluable. Hope your trip is going well,
    Warm regards
    Laura

  8. Esther says:

    Hi

    I’m just so confused. I was always working on the advice that babies should not be kept too warm as this is a cot death risk. So when I put my son in his 2.5 tog and it says it’s not to be used with other bedding for 18+ degrees I’ve been careful not to put anything else on him. But now I’m wondering if he’s waking because he’s cold.

    Why would the manufacturers put the advice on their products if it is wrong? I do find it stressful deciding whether he has too many layers or not. Please help…

    Esther

  9. Lou says:

    Hi Tizzie

    I’ve just discovered your blog.

    I’ve had my daughter on your routines since 2 weeks of age. She is now just over 4 months and is still waking up to three times during the night, around every two – three hours. I’ve started her on farex and apple puree in the past couple of days but this hasn’t chenged her waking times.

    I was wondering how I can tell if my baby is warm enough, seeing as it has been SO cold as of late? I don’t really understand TOG ratings?

    Thanks

  10. karen says:

    Hi Tizzie,
    I saw your iterview on tv3 in ireland this year. I have a 7 month old boy who is still waking up about 15 times a night, i give him his dummy and his put him on his back as he rolls over onto his tummy during the night a while later he wakes again. I have him sleeping in a sleepsuit and a 2.5tog sleepbag,im reading your blogs and thinking maybe he’s cold? Temp in our room is anything from 20-24 cel. I would really love to hear your advise please as we have not had one night sleep in 7 months.Please help xxxxx

  11. Kirstie says:

    Hi Karen:

    It does sound like your little one could be too cold in bed to settle and sleep well. I would recommend that you have a look at Tizzie’s safe bedding guide. This guide details exactly what to dress your little one in and what to cover them with at different temperatures and in different climates. One of the first signs of a baby that is too cold in bed is rolling the tummy and tucking their arms in underneath them. Here is a link to Tizzie’s bedding guide – http://www.saveoursleep.ie/product/2619/29185/ Secondly I notice you mention your baby has a dummy. Tizzie does not recommend dummy use as this is a ‘parent dependant’ sleeping aid. Essentially your baby is using the dummy to settle themselves to sleep and not ‘self settling’ so then when your baby wakes between sleep cycles overnight and the dummy has fallen out your baby will call for you to come and put the dummy back in so we would recommend you stop using the dummy. You can read about Tizzie’s dummy advice in the following articles or it is detailed in her book – http://www.saveoursleep.ie/product/2664/29098/ and http://www.saveoursleep.ie/product/2664/29182/ I hope you enjoyed watching the TV series on Ireland AM earlier this year.
    Regards
    Kirstie
    Save Our Sleep

  12. Li-Ann says:

    Hi Tizzie and Team
    I have 7 month old twins and they have been sleeping well (in very cold room temp of about 14-17deg) at night just in a Bonds wondersuit and a 1.5tog sleeping bag- crazy i know! They have pretty bad eczema and the doctor told us not to use blankets and don’t overheat them with singlets, etc. Recently they have been starting to wake up again at nights and I’m not sure what it is! They dont use dummies (as you have guided) and have been able to put themselves back to sleep for months! I think they are cold but then again how were they able to sleep in such a cold room through the night before this? Thanks Tizzie

  13. Maria says:

    Hi Tizzie,

    I noticed that Cillian is sleeping under 12 blankets in 20 degrees. I have your bedding guide but this seems to be twice as many as it suggests? Why is this? Perhaps I am not using enough blankets?
    Thanks,
    Maria

  14. Maria says:

    Thanks!

  15. Mel says:

    Hi Tizzie,
    It’s starting to get hot here in Sydney and I’m looking at all reasons as to why my four month old is waking at 1 then hourly from 3 or 4. Could he be hot? Last night his room was 26 degrees and we had him in a legless bodysuit and a wrap. Is that enough? Thanks – I always find the bedding so hard to work out, especially with a hot summer approaching and no AC in our house.
    Thanks!!

  16. Nat says:

    Hi Tizzie and Team, Sorry again if this has been answered elsewhere – in your safe bedding guide when you say 26C in NSW is 1 Day Blanket and 2 Night Blankets do you mean a total of 3 blankets at night or only 2?

    I’ve understood it as a total of 2 blankets for nights but just saw this post about Cillian having 12 blankets on so suspect I have it wrong – if I am wrong this would explain why my 9 week old is waking at 4.30am-5.30am every morning!!

    Nat x

  17. Nat says:

    Thanks Tizzie! I’ll try the extra blankets.

    Nat x

  18. Leyla says:

    Hi Tizzie,

    My baby and I love your routines, he is 3.5 months old and have been on your routine for a couple of weeks.
    The only thing is that I still swaddle him and not sure how to change and what to change to in terms of bedding. Would really appreciate your advice. He seems to put himself to sleep by rubbing his face with the swaddle, its a Frazer swaddle, so its very soft. I have purchased a comforter which I will start using soon, but how do I transition to a sleeping bag and how many layers of blankets do I need for the 24 degree room?

    Thank you,
    Leyla

  19. Kate says:

    Hi Adriana :

    Thank you for your post. Do you have a copy of Tizzie’s Safe Bedding Guide? You can find one here http://news.saveoursleep.com/newsletter.asp?n=E393C841E490485E . As you can see, for Melbourne, Tizzie recommends using a 2.5 tog safe sleeping bag for most temperatures. You would not switch to a 1 tog safe sleeping bag until it is 30 degrees or higher in your little ones room.

    If you feel that you need further support from here I ask that you join the forum so that I and other mums can help you.

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    The Save Our Sleep Advice forum offers a friendly, supportive online community where parents can help other parents establish and follow Tizzie’s routines and advice and help answer any questions that may come up along the way. The forum is a safe and secure environment where you can chat, help each other and share in the day to day joys, achievements and challenges of parenting. Tizzie and members of her team are actively involved in this area.

    The Advice Forum is a community of like-minded parents who willingly share their experiences, baby advice and support new members. The SOS moderating team checks the advice given and a member of Tizzie’s team will step in only if incorrect, misleading or potentially unsafe advice is given. This area is a Forum only and does not entitle members to support directly from either Tizzie or her team or guarantee you a reply.
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    Kind Regards
    Kate
    Save Our Sleep

  20. Kate says:

    Hi All:

    Tizzie and the Save Our Sleep team will no longer be answering questions in here, so please do not post a question up or it will be missed. The Blog is not an area for parents to seek advice about their children. If you have a specific question about the blog you need help with please email [email protected] and one of the team will point you in the right direction to get help. If you need advice about your baby please consider joining out advice area. http://shop.saveoursleep.com.au/product/1805/49457/

    Kind Regards
    Kate
    Save Our Sleep

  21. Jenny says:

    Hi Tizzie,

    I can’t believe the different adding a few more layers to my 3 month old’s bedding has made!
    Was just wondering, when would I use a 1 tog and 2.5tog safe sleeping bag? Sorry, I couldn’t find the info anywhere.

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